The Orrells

In 'My Journey - First Steps' I outlined satisfying my curiosity about Mary Ann Orrell and why she was in Cramond and left myself hanging with trying to link three Orrells James, Thomas and John.

Mary Ann had married William Mackay on the 18 July 1843 and in 1851 I found them living at Auchinleck Place, Leith with their two children William (c. 1843) and Elizabeth (c. 1846)
However in 1861 we only find Mary Ann and William living at 32, India Place, Edinburgh Mary Ann is a Washerwoman, and William Jnr. is a Shop Message. I did find an Elizabeth Mackay working as a Domestic Servant but I can't confirm this. It certain looks as though Mary Ann had money troubles if she is having to work whereas in 1841 she was at home. So where were the rest of the family?
A quick check showed that her father was now retired and living at Granton Cottages West, Cramond. Living with him was his other daughter Elizabeth now Baird and her 4 children James and Elizabeth. Elizabeth had married George Baird, a carpenter on the 24th March 1844 but he died on 15 May 1857. So father James is having to help keep two daughters and 6 children with no income.

By 1871 things appear to have improved and the census shows

Parish :  
Edinburgh St Cuthberts  
Street :  
Arthur Court  
Town :  
Edinburgh  
County :  
Midlothian  
Parish : 
685/1
ED :  
100
HS :  
23
Roll :  
CSSCT1871_157  

Name
Gender
Age
Birth
Occupation
Relation
Born
Spouse
Father
Mother
Page
Line
William Mackay Male
25
abt 1846 Boot Cutter Head Feith, Edin Mary Ann
0
2
Mary Ann Mackay Female
45
abt 1826 Mother Liverpool, England
0
3
John Alexander Male
29
abt 1842 Cab Viver Brother-in-law Edinburgh
0
4
Elizabeth Alexander Female
27
abt 1844 Sister Granton, Edinburgh
0
5
Archibald Alexander Male
28
abt 1843 Scholar Nephew Edinburgh
0
6
Mary Ann Alexander Female
4
abt 1867 Niece Edinburgh
0
7
Elizabeth Alexander Female
2
abt 1869 Niece Lanark, Glasgow
0
8

William is now supporting his Mother and his sister had married John Alexander, a Cab Driver , on 13th June 1862. Unfortunately Mary Ann dies later that year on the 17th of July.
Mary Ann's father, her sister Elizabeth and Elizabeth's children have by this time moved back to Lancashire and are living 2, Blackfield Street, Kirkdale.

With Mary Ann's death it appears that the Orrell presence in Scotland was at an end as I hadn't found any certain trace of any of the other of James's children although I did find one entry in the Cramond Deaths - 'James Orrell died at Davidson's Mains on the 15th May 1849 and was buried' this is probably James's son but there is no proof. It appears that there was an outbreak of Cholera in 49 so that could explain the missing others.

At this point I followed the Mackay line and forgot about the Orrells.

Returning later to the Orrells I did a search for John Orrell & Co. but I didn't find anything I didn't know already. So next I built a separate tree for Thomas's family but it didn't help at all until I realised that Thomas must have died in Scotland. I checked and he died on 22 Dec 1859, I downloaded his death certificate which gave me two facts, his wife's maiden name and his parent's names. His parent are listed as John Orrell and Betty Crompton, looking up the IGI we find that there are 6 children listed for them -James b 1795, John b 1798, William b 1801, Catherine b 1803, Thomas b 1806 and Margaret b 1810, but this didn't really help me connect Thomas, James & John. However if he died in Scotland, did he leave a will? Yes not only did I find his will, I found that his wife, his daughter and a John Orrell all had wills probated in Scotland. So I splashed the cash and read all 4.

First Thomas's, his will was as one would expect everything was left to his wife except that he left £100 to his niece Catherine Jackson who was residing with him - referring back to the 1851 census

Parish :  
Burntisland  
Street :  
South Hill  
Town :  
Burntisland  
County :  
Fife  
Parish : 
411
ED :  
3
HS :  
106
Roll :  
CSSCT1851_85  

Name
Gender
Age
Birth
Occupation
Relation
Born
Spouse
Father
Mother
Page
Line
Thomas Orrell Male
43
abt 1808 Burlder Contractor Head Liverpool Ann
23
11
Ann Orrell Female
38
abt 1813 Wife Liverpool Thomas
23
12
John Orrell Male
10
abt 1841 Son Crammond, Lotherim Thomas Ann
23
13
Thos Orrell Male
13
abt 1838 Nephew Crammond, Lotherim
23
14
Cath Orrell Female
16
abt 1835 Niece Liverpool
23
15
Helen Brown Female
20
abt 1831 House Servant Servant Leith, Edin
23
16

and there is no Catherine Jackson but there was a Cath Orrell so is this an error, looking back at the 1841 census I would think so. But wait a minute there is a Thos. Orrell born in Cramond abt 1838, that's James's son and as he is Thomas's nephew, that makes James and Thomas brothers.

Looking at the Inventory of Thomas 's possessions does yield some interesting stuff

Item three - Balance in account current with the Clydesdale Bank in the name of Anthony Murray, Writer to the Signet and Messrs. Rolland & Thomson, Writers to the Signet for three partners of the late firm of John Orrell & Company including interest to 31st December 1859 £28-8/-
The deceased ‘s one third whereof is

Five of the other items also say that Thomas is one of three partners in John Orrell &Co. However all was not rosy as item 8 makes reference to an Arbiter determining the division of this item.

Next John's, John died on 31st July 1867 in Kirkdale, Liverpool but his will was also submitted for probate in Scotland. For this reason there is no inventory but it's obvious he wasn't short of a bob or two as he refers to 6 dwelling houses in Great Howard Street, 3 warehouses in Fulton Street, 10 houses on the West side of Blackfield Street, Kirkdale and 'certain Public Houses'. The only people listed are his sons John and Joseph, daughters Ester Ellams and Jane Gill, their husbands and children and his sister Margaret Rimmer.
However Blackfield Street sounds familiar - James & his daughter Elizabeth Baird are living at No.2 !!

Next Ann Elizabeth (Thomas's daughter) died in 1866 and left everything to her mother.

Finally Ann Elizabeth Orrell/ Sinsburgh. Ann outlived the others by twenty years and died on 30 May 1888. Her will is a delight and a nightmare at the same time. She lists 19 legatees, some obvious, other's not so obvious and others probably not any sort of relation.

The first of Ann's legatees is Mrs Catherine Jackson or Sharples, this is clearly the Catherine Jackson /Orrell in Thomas's will and the 1841/51 censuses. Luckily I found Catherine's marriage to Benjamin Sharples, a plumber, in Burntisland on 2nd of October 1865 and her parents are given as Thomas Jackson and Catherine Jackson ms Orrell. - Looking good.

The second legatee is Mrs. Betsy Baird or Orrell - James daughter

The third legatee is Mrs. Margaret Orrell or Rymer sister of my late husband - bingo - this matches John's sister Mrs Margaret Rimmer.

With the sixth bequest reads 'To Elizabeth Mackay and William Mackay children of the late Mrs Mary Orrell or Mackay daughter of James Orrell Senior and niece of my said husband' so we have further proof the relationship between Thomas and James.

Finally the eleventh legatee is Thomas Granton Orrell, no idea what relationship he is but the name is rather suggestive.

And so is appears that James, John and Thomas were brothers and probably partners in John Orrell & Co.

The other inference we can draw is that as Catherine Jackson is in the 1841/51 census living with Thomas, her parents are probably dead. In addition as her husband gives his address as 188, Derby Road, Kirkdale, Liverpool one can suppose that Catherine spent some time in Kirkdale with relatives. In addition when I looked at the 1861 census of Kirkdale I found Benjamin living with his parents Benjamin (a retired Innkeeper) and Hannah, but living with him is a James Orrell aged 9, a nephew!

I have yet to follow up the other legatees.